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TD Power Systems Ltd.
08 Feb 2021, 04:01PM
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Conference Call with TD Power Systems Management and Analysts on Q4FY20 and Full Year Earnings Performance and Outlook. Listen to the full earnings transcript

Call Participants: Mr. Nikhil Kumar - MD, Mrs. M. N. Varalaxmi - CFO

Introductory Remarks from Nikhil Kumar

Good morning everyone and thank you all of you for joining us today in the call. Let me start my discussion of the financial performances of the year ended March 31, 2020. 

  • On a standalone basis our full year income was Rs 494 crore versus Rs 456 crore in the previous year

  • Profit After Tax was comprehensive income at Rs 16.9 crores versus Rs 6.97 crores

  • Full year manufacturing revenues is Rs 455 crores versus Rs 408 crores, up 12% 

  • Exports contributed 65% of manufacturing revenue without the railway business and it was 59% including the railway business

  • Unfortunately, we lost around Rs 30 crores of manufacturing revenues due to Covid-19 lockdown and inability to get inspectors to come to India or inspectors from India to come to Bangalore starting from around March 10. After that, we had trouble to ship orders, finished goods and then when the eventual lockdown started on March 22, we had to close our factory and everything came to a grinding halt

  • Manufacturing order book including Turkish operations stands today at Rs 1,107 crores. Rs 306 crores is our manufacturing business, Rs 715 crores is railways business and Rs 86 crores is our Turkey business

  • The order in flow for the current year was Rs 468 crores, for the manufacturing business for Turkey, we had Rs 88 crores. Total inflow for the manufacturing business for the year ended March 2020 was Rs 556 crore versus a year before at Rs 488 crores

  • Full year polish business revenue was Rs 32 crores versus Rs 42 crores, the previous year. The pending order for this segment is Rs 22 crores 

  • On a consolidated basis, full year total income including exceptional items was Rs 542 crores versus Rs 468 crores. Profit After Tax including comprehensive and exceptional income is Rs 28.85 crore versus the profit of Rs 2.9 crores, the previous year

  • Today in the year, the company wrote back payables of around Rs 12 crores in our subsidiary company DF Power systems

  • Our consolidated order book is at Rs 1,129 crores which is manufacturing business as I said to you earlier was at Rs 306 crores, railways business is Rs 715 crores

  • Ever since the Covid-19 lockdown started and we have had disruption in the entire business cycle across the country and also in the world, we have been trying to analyze the market and our position in the market more in terms of two questions - 1) What will be the impact of all this on the company’s business for the current fiscal FY21 and  2) What will be the impact on the company’s business beyond FY21

  • Answer of the first question: Looking at the pending order of FY21, we were blessed with very strong order flow last financial year. We also had a spill over from last year due to Covid-19 lockdowns of around Rs 30 crores. Correspondingly, we have also seen after the lockdown has been lifted that we have postponements up to approximately the same amount as the spillover from the last year. At the moment, we have no order cancellations. We have also observed that most of the postponements are from the Indian market and negligible postponement from outside India

  • The good news is that our railways business for the Indian market is totally intact with the original projections which were there pre-Covid-19. So, overall we see that our business for FY21 is still stable at this time and we still expect FY21 to be a very good year for the company. Ofcourse, there is an impact from Covid-19 since FY21 was on track, actually an exceptional year with a 25% growth but now we firmly revise that growth to be around 16-18% over last year including our business from Turkey

  • Regarding projections for FY22, we have seen that we still have some momentum from pre-Covid and we have seen fairly strong order inflows in April and May. At the moment, we don’t see much disruptions from our business from international markets and most of the pipeline pre-Covid-19, we see still intact. However, some of the sectors are really hammered, like the shell oil business, but lower oil business means engine business. Overall, the net effect is positive for TDPS

  • We are also confident that Indian market will bounce back eventually and it is not a question of all doom and gloom. We also expect Indian Railways and expect the number of locomotives required by around 10-15% for FY22

  • In summary, we are overall very positive about FY22 and I also want to convey that we are still very cautious about FY22 but at the same time we are very optimistic. We are extremely confident on hitting our numbers for FY21

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Earnings Call Transcript - TD Power Systems
Earnings Call Transcript of TD Power Systems: Analyst and Investors Call Q3 as well as 9M FY 20

Opening Remarks by Management

Our total income on a standalone basis for 9-months is Rs. 346 crore, an increase of 22% versus Rs. 283 crore for the same period last year. Profit after tax for 9-months is Rs. 9.24 crore versus a loss of Rs. 4.5 crore for the same period previous year. The Company had adopted the revised tax structure and has made tax provisions accordingly. Manufacturing revenues for 9 months is Rs. 328 crore versus Rs. 262 crore, an increase of 25%. Exports and deemed exports contributed 61% of manufacturing revenue. The total manufacturing order book including our Turkey operation and our railway business stands at Rs. 1,095 crore, out of which Rs. 290 crore is India manufacturing, Rs. 736 crore is the railway business and Rs. 69 crore is Turkey. Exports and deemed exports including Turkey but excluding the railway business is 74%.

Order inflow: Our total inflow for 9 months is as follows; including TDPS Turkey which is now clubbed together, in the future we will be clubbing our Turkey business with the manufacturing business. Our total order inflow is Rs. 419 crore for 9 months compared to Rs. 370 crore the previous year same period. Q3 order inflow for the current year is Rs. 186 crore versus Rs. 131 crore for Q3 of this year versus Q3 of last year. Project business for 9 months is Rs.10 crore versus Rs. 13 crore the same period last year. Our order book for the projects business stands at Rs. 35 crore.

Consolidated: Our total income is Rs. 375 crore versus Rs. 268 crore the same period last year, an increase of 40%. Profit after tax and other comprehensive income is Rs. 10.53 crore versus a loss of Rs. 12 crore last year. We continue to maintain a strong cash position of Rs. 152 crore.

Market situation and Guidance: This year, we have seen strong order inflows in all segments of the business from India as well as some exports. In particular we had seen heavy order inflows from the gas engine business export and steam turbine side domestic. We have seen the domestic market ordering in steel, waste heat recovery in cement primarily, distillery including ethanol business and paper and to a smaller extent we are seeing some business in sugar cogeneration.

We think that the domestic market has bottomed out and signs of consistent recovery are clear and emerging. For us, the hydro business is flat at the moment in terms of order inflows, but there are some big orders in the export market and we are waiting strongly for them and we are hopeful to secure a few of them. Our Turkey manufacturing business deserves special mention. We have almost 10 million order inflow and our factory in Turkey is running at full capacity. They have taken orders in geothermal, hydro and biomass. We hope to have consistent volumes in this market for 21-22, since the enquiry and order pipeline is very strong. We have secured breakthrough orders from a major US engine Company into TDPS India. We have received an order for 3 machines and we will then receive an order for 5 more machines, a total of 8 machines for different engine types. We will expect volumes to begin in 21-22 for this, since there is an 8 month qualification period after delivery of these machines, delivery of the prototypes is expected to be around May this year. Our traction line for railways is running at Rs. 8 crore per month, starting from this month, confirmation of volumes at this current run rate for 20-21 has already been received from the customer and they are going flat out.

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